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Title: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Lono676767 on October 28, 2009, 05:08:00 PM
I recently read an article in a medical journal, that had an interesting correlation.
This article stated that autism which is predominately a male sickness is caused by mercury toxicity when an infant or young child was given a vaccination(nearly all vaccinations including the flu shots have mercury in them), however it seems that autism is becoming more prevalent these days.. and the question was why? the proposed answer was that this is due to the sedentary lifestyles of the population(meaning staying indoors), and the population becoming more and more vitamin D deficient. Or that the pregnant mother didnt take enough and or pass enough vitamin D onto her child.

Vitamin D is what removes mercury from the body.
Vitamin D is also something the body generates from a 5-10 minute walk in the Sun .(depending on melanin or skin color) The darker skin you have the better protection you have from the suns rays; but also the longer you need to be out in the sun to absorb the same amount as a lighter skinned person.

your thoughts
-L


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: JustinS on October 28, 2009, 08:16:22 PM
It sounds like a viable correlation...I didn't know that's what caused autism.


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Myrbree on October 29, 2009, 12:49:33 AM
Actually what causes autism is the crap the FDA tries to force down our throats. And then the idiots try to tell us NOT to take so much vitamin D.

Sorry FDA. You can shove your lying heads up your ass! Were gonna take Vitamin D because its necessarily!

-Myr

ps...that was my health rant for the day


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: JustinS on October 29, 2009, 06:08:40 AM
FDA is like any other part of the government...they want money.
They like to waste it too.


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: cmh1984 on October 29, 2009, 09:02:18 AM
*sigh*  Why does none of this surprise me, I've been sayin it for years. 

If I had the money and resources I would switch to a whole foods lifestyle, ditch the vitamins and get my minerals and vitamins straight from their sources!!! 

Myr, I agree with you, except I am not sorry to the FDA.  I think they suck!!  >:(


Scientist makes drugs, FDA aprroves them, docs prescribe/recommend them, patient develops new symptoms, scientist makes drugs, FDA approves them, docs prescribe/recommend them, patient develops new symptom......  vicious cycle.....


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Lono676767 on October 30, 2009, 03:33:11 PM
speaking of raw foods...this is actually deserving of its own topics but...check out this link and video..
I watched the entire thing and was amazed....its about completely reversing diabetes
http://www.rawfor30days.com/index4.html


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: cmh1984 on November 02, 2009, 11:51:39 AM
speaking of raw foods...this is actually deserving of its own topics but...check out this link and video..
I watched the entire thing and was amazed....its about completely reversing diabetes
[url]http://www.rawfor30days.com/index4.html[/url]


WOW!  cool!!!!


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Screwtape on November 02, 2009, 12:05:38 PM
The increase in ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) may just be due to better diagnosis.  There seems to be a high correlation between mercury & ASD but nothing I've read convinces me that Thimerosal  is a cause,


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: nollie on November 02, 2009, 03:16:25 PM
actually, in contrast to the mercury correlation, there has been a high correlation between the elevated methyl status(which works as a stop code, keeping the gene from being expressed) around a certain gene (the OXTR gene, which is responsible for encoding oxytocin, an enzyme necessary for social developement). The correlation is about 79% suggesting that a broad spectrum of autim disorders are epigenetically related, and heritable. It was also noted that autism has a strong environmental link (being that of the mercury or not), which accounts for about 13% leaving the rest unknown.

My source, Human genetics class, but im sure you can find the studies leading to these stats in medical news journals, i believe as recent as october 22, 2009.


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Lono676767 on November 02, 2009, 03:19:32 PM
oxytocin is one of the main enzymes in breast milk correct?


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Klara on November 02, 2009, 08:18:56 PM
According to the Merriam-Webster's Medical Desk Dictionary...

"Oxytocin: a octapeptide hormone (C43H66N12O12S2) secreted by the anterior lobe of the pituitary gland that stimulates the contraction of uterine muscle and the scretion of milk -- called also alpha-hypophamine"

So, in short, oxytocin is a hormone that stimulated the secretion of breat milk, not something found in breast milk itself.  Oxytocin also starts the labor process.

--Klara--


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: tomakins on November 06, 2009, 03:36:15 PM
Vaccinations are a tricky subject.
When my son was getting them I wondered why they didn't space out the shots a bit at least. Nothing like seeing a baby get 4 shots in one visit to make one wonder.

I completely agree about the FDA being seemingly corrupted. Read a book called The China Study sometime. Surprisingly quick and easy of a read given that it is more about research and less about any actual story. It touches on the practices of some of the government agencies that tell us what to consume. Also go to Ted.com and check out the Mark Bittman bit (direct link to video (http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/mark_bittman_on_what_s_wrong_with_what_we_eat.html)). Very interesting stuff.

I personally think that vaccinations in and of themselves are not the issue. But that they are one piece in the autism puzzle which includes other nutritional questions as well. Not to mention genetics. Too little to jump to vaccinations being the key, too much to jump away from vaccinations having any possible negative, possibly autism inflicting, effects.

As for raw, I brought a raw vegan friend of mine to a Gathering once. Interesting energy to say the least. She is pretty tuned in and was amazed at what she was picking up in the room. And others were immensely attracted to her. One was actually caught tapping into her a bit. But I think it was his intense curiosity to what she gave off and not an intentional attempt to feed. Just a taste perhaps, if it could be worded as such.


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: AprilC on November 06, 2009, 06:12:45 PM
Wow I did not know that it started the labor process.  Very interesting! 


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: aliorsum on November 06, 2009, 08:23:58 PM
very interesting point...about vitamins


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Myrbree on November 08, 2009, 12:15:32 AM
I mean...anyone with a brain stem can see how the FDA approves drugs and only after people die do they take it off the market.

-Myr


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: AprilC on November 08, 2009, 09:25:20 AM
Yes I noticed that.  They did that with my daughter's cough medicine because a child died after falling asleep due to the medication in the cough medicine causing the child to forget to breath.  They do that with alot of medications.  Now you can't even surf the channels anymore without seeing a law firm commercial asking if anyone has experienced certain symptoms or even death due to a medication reaction.  Obviously they are approving drugs without ensuring its safe taking first.


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: deusxmachina on November 10, 2009, 12:19:18 PM
The FDA is definitely dysfunction with regard to a lot of things, but they've got a really difficult job. They've got multibillion dollar pharma companies shoving clinical trials down their throat. Honestly, those are the real bad guys, not the FDA.

Mercury and mercury breakdown products may trigger genetic markers for autism, but those predisposing genes must be there in the first place. Furthermore, most shots nowadays don't contain mercury at all, and the ones that do contain it, the amount you receive from all your shots is probably less than you'd get from a childhood of tunafish sandwiches. Mercury, even in large doses, can't cause autism in individuals that aren't predisposed.


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Nyxson on February 03, 2010, 03:16:40 PM
I don't exactly know what caused it. When I was four, a doctor diagnosed me with Asperger's Syndrome, but when I was nine up till age 18, I had a mercury filling in my molar. Mom wanted me to get it removed and I did so.


Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: Lono676767 on February 04, 2010, 09:38:48 AM
"The FDA is definitely dysfunction with regard to a lot of things, but they've got a really difficult job."

and they dont take things off the shelves or recall them, unless theres at least 100 deaths from a particular medication.



Title: Re: vitamins, vacinnations and autism.
Post by: fallingbird on February 05, 2010, 10:44:07 PM
Lono, I think that's kinda a creepy thought, if you ask me...

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